Hell’s Angel: Mother Teresa by Christopher Hitchens (2 of 3)

this video is pathetic. trying to bring down a woman that devoted her entire life to helping the poor. wow you have a true heart Chris. what do you have against her? oh she’s catholic. yes of course. the media hates those catholics. why not try and take down the popular ones first? For God’s sake, she is doing nothing but good. she spends her life caring for the poor and lives in poverty herself. You people are pathetic. truly pathetic.

Oh, please don’t misunderstand, cholery. I didn’t think you were defending it. I enjoy the insight into a new perspective I hadn’t thought about. That’s a hard task to un-demonize sexuality and intercourse though…

Agreed– I’m not defending the idea at all, but to destroy stupidity we have to find the roots of it.

Neither my, nor Hitchens claim was about MTS, Inc. It was of course about the Missionaries of Charity. The actual organization that MT founded and headed. It is you who are suspect for trying to change subject like that.

What I’m doing is urging people to be sceptical of claims of sainthood and evangelists who claim to be working for the poor.

She’s managed to discredit herself all on her own. Google missionaries of charity +audit and find out for yourself. Just as an example.

Please don’t go resort to such fraudulent claims. Mother Teresa Shelter, Inc. was audited. That alone makes your claims suspect.

Btw, I suspect Hitchens doesn’t include the interviews of the people in the care of MT because it would have compromised his case. Not a single interview from anyone undergoing this ‘torture’. But, I will refrain from claiming to know his intent.
I applaud your bravado surfking8. You’ve done all you could to discredit the rotting corpse of a nun. What is it to you?

First off, I must applaud your cowardice. If you actually sought an answer then why didn’t you reply via the reply button? That way I’d have been notified of your feeble attempt at retort.

Now, to the business at hand. You mean she sometimes built convents. She says herself in this very film that she had built 500 convents, in over a hundred countries. Also, her organization has never accepted an audit. Is this what you would call honest and forthcoming? Helping the poor or spreading the faith?

Ah. That’s a good point, Cholery. I it’s kind of stupid though… people are going to have sex regardless. There is a reason why “abstinance-only” education increases STD rates, teen pregnancy, etc in the areas that it’s taught.

I kind of get their thought pattern now, but they should be able to see that discouraging contraceptives is only making the problem worse. i.e. They should realize they’re part of the problem, not the solution.

I can see your logic– but I think for many of these people abortion itself is not the source of the evil– the evil comes from fornication. So, promoting contraceptives is, in their minds, equal to encouraging casual sex among minors or the unmarried– which is the true ‘sin’ here.

If we were dealing in logic– a real debate about abortion, when it is permissible or not, could take place. We’re dealing with pure dogma and absolutism, however.

See, I don’t think that is the natural conclusion because it’s based on a dogmatic view that both are too evil to do.

I think people that base their views in logic. would come to the conclusion I did. Even if you believe both abortion and contraception are evil, obviously one should be considered worse than the other.

It’s a cause effect relationship. It’s not logical to condemn the disease and the cure. To me it’s no different than saying that the flu is bad, then banning hand sanitizer.

anti-contraception is the natural conclusion of the anti-abortion movement. Sex is for procreation alone, not pleasure, and all gametes are sacred living things to be protected. See Monty Python (‘every sperm is sacred’).

Reasoned arguments don’t work against insanity.

What I don’t understand is the position of “no abortion” AND “no contraceptives.”

Either one or the other. If you want to lessen abortion, educate people about contraceptives so they don’t get pregnant in the first place.

Thank you Mother Teresa… I was highly angered at this and very upset! But you are right, “forgive” thank you Mother Teresa

weighing what i would do with the billions of dollars behind the catholic church and they do i certainly would take what i would do.

You tell someone dying in poverty they have no way out of in this lifetime that this is the only life they have? If there is no god, what difference does it make to you what they believe in their final days when they have nothing to look forward to. Again, I’m no Catholic, but weighing what you’d do and what a nun would do, I’d choose nun any day. She did more than cherish her own life, she loved the stricken and afflicted, the unlovable. Enjoy cherishing your life. Peace.

Exactly my point she did what she could within her religious convictions!! That is what is called COMING TO A SITUATION WITH A PREEXISTING DOGMA she’s trying to stuff all the important issues into that 2000 year old cruel, hating, greusome dogma. Yes maybe she did some good, but honestly… SHE DIDN’T even believe in it so she was just as much a victim of the Catholic CHurch who through her out there and basically said go do miracles. It’s all crap. She’s happier now, I can only hope.

Well friend… DId you know Mother Teresa accepting thousands upon thousands from the Haitian dictator the cruel oppressive and disgusting ruler of Haiti until some years ago. What did she do with this, paid NUNS! Built nunneries! Once again that isn’t philanthropy it’s the guise of helping when in fact you are spreading a horrible ideology aimed at directing people to the afterlife when THEY KNOW FULL WELL THIS IS THE ONLY LIFE WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO CHERISH IT, and our loved ONES! enough.

@theanj. Hitchens conveniently omits facts to prove his point. He makes assumptions that you cannot pick up. E.g. MT was “an ally of the status quo”. In other words, she went to India dedicated her life to making sure that people died the same way they would have without intervention. Are you intellectually and morally satisfied supporting such an accusation? Critique her social views responsibly. Don’t condemn her moral character. Walk the talk (not like Hitchens). Show some love.

1. Hitchens fails to mention that MT advocated the ‘rhythm’ method. Inferior to contraception but she did what she could within her religious convictions.
2. Albania is not a first world country. Hitchens ignores this fact and labels it ‘western’. It was communist till 1992. Why would the democratic west want to identify itself with someone from a communist state?
3. Her alignments are just evidence of her anti-confrontational stance. I’m sorry that she wasn’t flaming every govt on this planet.

Another video,…. ? Really Vapour? Well I think once again let me see that it is important for Hitchens to tell the truth. He gets it out there… And lets people think for themselves. I would challenge you to contend with any point he has made in this documentary.

Mother Teresa is sucking cocks in hell now

Indeed, you folks talking like beings with a higher moral awareness had better look at yourselves in the mirror. Spend 20 years (discounted rate) doing stuff like that for ANY reason and see how you hold up. So what if a little, old lady says “forgive”. I hope Hitchens feels good about how this helped make him famous.

When she says she sees god, she’s referring to that bible quote of whatsoever you do for the least of my brothers, that you do unto me…that serving the poor is what god wants and so that’s why she does it. Again, who the hell cares if she is trying to do “god’s work?” IF she is trying to help the poor, I just don’t see why we should bother about her motivation. I don’t think any of us would touch these filthy, sick people, much less do it for our entire lives.

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Teresa did not help the dieing she only provided a place for them to die. She admitted herself that she saw god through the suffering of others.

LOL at the sheep who applauded “and no contraceptives”.